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2 - Hi Mark, I'm wondering why all those associated with Weston A Price and that other jerk Pottenger all seem to
suffer from vCJD 'brain dead' every article you morons write that bag vegetarianism or veganism have no
substance, nothing is documented in any medical journal! Anyone who promotes raw milk, raw meat has to
be a first class jerk. I suspect you pomm(i)es suffer from Mad Cows. I mean your surrounded by the diseased
intensive factory farmed non-human beings. Supporters
of the Meat and Live Slaughter, Menstrual Effluent Board and the White Stuff.
Get a real life. The animals don't need your excuses GO VEGAN Answer
- Hi Anonymous,
What are you going to achieve by hiding yourself behind a brick wall of
anonymous rant; delivering angry outbursts of irrational, generalised
assumptions at someone who you do not even know? Get your bloody facts
straight mate.
Your wild ironic accusations are totally misappropriated in this
instance, I can assure you. Approach Weston A Price et al over your
concerns over "raw meat" fetishes - I do not know what you are
on about. I just write the occaisional article for their journal.
You do not realise that I have fought for the best interests of animal
welfare over the years, to the extent that I have been alienated from
the entire conventional farming community here in the UK - I just differ
from you in that I feel domestic animals perform a crucial role in
maintaining soil fertility; their manure supplying humus for balanced
soil microbiology and nutrient status. Without this, wind and rain
erosion would deplete top soils sufficiently to famine the world. No
amount of theorizing over the adequacy of green manures in maintaining
humus will dissuade me from my 30 years of PRACTICAL agricultural
experience. If you want scientific references, then I could send you
hundreds - or simply look up my academic publication list in the
scientific literature.
Your style of approach can only create great gulfs of conflict in the
world. We need growth and understanding in these disintegrating
times, not further angry anonymous souls orbiting around igniting off
cluster bombs of irrational outburst.
I have spent my adult life pitted face to face (NB, not anonymously)
against the might of multinational and government dirty tricks in order
to expose the eco-toxicology of products that prop up the global economy
. It is a lonesome life, believe you me, and I did not see you by my
side in Australia two weeks ago when I was single handedly risking my
physical well being - yet again - by taking on the mega mining
corporation which control Groote island, and pointing out to their
manager how their mining activities have crippled an entire Aboriginal
village with a fatal psycho-neurological TSE disorder (scape-goated onto
Aboriginal genetics) as well as seeding the mad cow madness (with their
manganese dioxide animal mineral product) across the entire world .
Your ironic nationalistic comments about vCJD being a pommie
problem, when you are obviously too blind to suss out that it originated
from your back door.
No I do not need to get any more real than I already am, you anonymous
wimp.
Mark Purdey Reply
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Not Sure why you think I sent this anon, my emails supposed to show Paul Stokes maybe I did not sign off.
As for visiting Australia. What a shame that you came 25,000 miles and you never got to meet 'the grass
roots ngo groups'- who brought you? Whoever organised your stay could have a least contacted us there are
numerous sites internationally we are on active.org.au,
geneEthics.network.
As for my "ravings and rantings" I got this feeling looking at you site and you still say domestics
animals have a crucial role blah de blah. non-human species are not on this planet for you farmers! After
they have served your purpose they are off to the slaughter houses, don't give me that crap that you
have a use for their shit! What you going the grow grains for to feed to the animalk whose hard hoofs
destroy the top soil.
Oh I forgot you have designed
some rubber wellie for the cows and sheep!
Its not the facts you need in fancy words it the hard facts you need even if its a bit stronger than your
pommie tea! The animals don't need your excuses Go Vegan! Answer
- wow, your Emails get increasingly aberrant !
What do you mean by; "Who brought me to Australia? "Some of us on this planet still have enough integrity and inner security
left to think and decide for ourselves as "individuals", and
therefore do not need to get addicted to the dogmas of the Mundi club,
ngo groups, vegan groups or the likes of the Weston A Price
Foundation et al .
It was actually an Aboriginal family who saw a documentary about my work
on your Four Corners ABC tele slot. They then suggested that I came over
to investigate their disease which I did - entirely on my own
initiative. This family are not on the internet so they had not been
aware of your organisation. Anyway, as I fund myself, I do not have the
resources to travel to meet all of these grass roots ngo groups to which
you refer.
You then commit that same old "livestock versus vegetable"
cliche where you condemn livestock because they allegedly erode the soil
via their hooves! Your statement is totally misguided and devoid
of any practical insight into the biomechanics of ecosystems. You are
seriously deluding yourself.
Witness; the sudden onset of topsoil erosion once the likes of Delmonte
and other corporations started to plough up the light loam African
plains where the herds of Massai cattle - along with wild hoofed animals
- once roamed. Whilst zero soil erosion occurred when the land was
traditionally pastured, twenty years of continuous cash cropping with
pineapples, vegetables, sorghum, etc, caused almost total loss of soil
humus within that small amount of time - to the extent that the
corporations found it no longer able to sustain an economically
viable yield of crop despite their massive chemical fertiliser inputs.
Soils without humus will not grow crops, full stop. final.
Another example of the value of cow manure as a soil humus builder
involves the switch from the customary returning of cow dung to the land
in India to the customary burning of cow dung as fuel. This switch over
initiated an unprecedented increase in soil erosion by wind and rain, to
the extent that the cause of the problem was picked up on and they duly
reverted to their policy of returning dung to the land. I could cite
thousands of examples of erosion from around the world, due to cessation
of returning dung back to the soil.
Wind and rain erosion of soils occurs once humus is depleted and the
soil micro-life/earthworms, etc have been annihilated - by the likes of
chemical soil acaricides such as carbaryl which are employed in
mono-cropping systems. Also the machinery tracking and compacting endured
in arable/vegetable farming systems causes serious gully erosion of
top-soils. I have never seen any erosion resulting from livestock hooves.
To the contrary, each hoof-print serves to puddle the rainfall, thereby
PREVENTING erosion as opposed to the ever increasing snowball effect due
to the amassing of rainfall flowing along the tractor tracks in gully
erosion.
I expect that you will now wheel out that age old cliche of perma-culture.
Whilst you or I may have the initiative and motivation to perma-culture
sufficient food from our back gardens, it is totally unpractical and
unworkable to envision this system on a grand global scale. As reality
stands, we have the population masses living in large towns who are
dependent upon cheap food and materialistic indulgences. There would be
a revolution if any government tried to force them to start perma-culturing their own food.
It just would not work. Thus, the present
consumer society has found its own unhappy medium and lead to the
evolution of a farming system that is seriously adrift - mono-cropping
arable/ vegetable desert-scapes and grotesque, factory-farmed domestic
animal systems from hell. I am trying to evolve a mixed sustainable
system of farming which respects ecology, animal and human welfare, as
well as serving as an economically VIABLE and PRACTICAL alternative to
the current mono systems.
Whilst I stand with you against the extreme cruelty of intensive
factory farming, I do feel that animals have to be involved in a mixed,
balanced farming system intended to feed the world - but farmed in a
welfare-friendly way!
I hope you will just step outside your dogma for a while to consider
this viable option for a future of life on earth, and not a life without
any earth.
Best,
Mark Purdey. 
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